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"The Battle of Five Armies, depicted in The Hobbit, was fought between the Goblins and the Wargs of Moria and the Misty Mountains against the Men of the Long Lake, the Elves of Mirkwood, the Dwarves on and near the Lonely Mountain and the great Eagles of the Misty Mountains.

This is the plan that Gandalf made in council with the Elvenking and with Bard; and with Dain, for the dwarf-lord now joined them: the Goblins were the foes of all, and at their coming all other quarrels were forgotten. The only hope for Men, Elves and Dwarves was to lure the goblins into the valley between the arms of the Mountain; and themselves to man the great spurs that struck south and east. Yet this would be perilous, if the goblins were in sufficient numbers to overrun the Mountain itself, and so attack them also from behind and above; but there was no time for make any other plan, or to summon any help.

Soon the thunder passed, rolling away to the South-East; but the bat-cloud came, flying lower, over the shoulder of the Mountain, and whirled above them shutting out the light and filling them with dread.

"To the Mountain!" called Bard. "To the Mountain! Let us take our places while there is yet time!"

On the Southern spur, in its lower slopes and in the rocks at its feet, the Elves were set; on the Eastern spur were men and dwarves. But Bard and some of the nimblest of men and elves climbed to the height of the Eastern shoulder to gain a view to the North. Soon they could see the lands before the Mountain's feet black with a hurrying multitude. Ere long the vanguard swirled round the spur's end and came rushing into Dale. These were the swiftest wolf-riders, and already their cries and howls rent the air afar. A few brave men were strung before them to make a feint of resistance, and many there fell before the rest drew back and fled to either side. As Gandalf had hoped, the goblin army had gathered behind the resisted vanguard, and poured now in rage into the valley, driving wildly up between the arms of the Mountain, seeking for the foe. Their banners were countless, black and red, and they came on like a tide in fury and disorder.

Darkness was coming into a stormy sky; while still the great bats swirled about the heads and ears of elves and men, or fastened vampire-like on the stricken. Now Bard was fighting to defend the Eastern spur, and yet giving slowly back."

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Pen & drawing ink work. I jumped to the last part of the book because this kind of sceneries are pretty fun to draw after all, and I guess I'll draw more related to this event.
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Pandachan2012 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014
I love your artwork!
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Libra1010 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
 This is a marvellous image, but one gets the feeling that it should be subtitled 'How NOT to discipline your dog' (for I have delusions of humour and they hold me in a FIERCE grip!).;) (Wink) 
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner May 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"Bad boy, let GO of his intestines!" XD
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Libra1010 Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
 "GRRRRR! MINE! MINE!"

 (obviously the beast thinks it's the next Carcharoth!).
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Gurdim Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
Cool, it reminds me of some of those frescos in renaissance Italy depicting famous battles, with a "ground level camera" let's say xD, like the never finished Battle of Anghiari upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… or the Battle of San Romano upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, thank you for that cool reference :D. Those old (finished) battle-themed frescos are insanely detailed, I loved to see those during history lessons.
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longrunIV Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
your artwork is amazing me and my son love viewing them
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ho, that is very flattering! Thank you very much for commenting.
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IAM-ARTIST Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
I'm a student at RISD, and I really wish I could draw this good
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
As the cliche goes, only practise, practise and practise helps. I have drawn from kindergarten age but started to use drawing ink in 2004-2005. When I look my drawings which I made in 2004 or so and compare to drawings made in 2005 there are a huge difference. Usually when old work starts to look odd it's a sign that skill improvements happen.

Watching these oldy drawings... haha, I think I'll make a small before-after journal, just for the lols.
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jailgurdnegative Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist
Awesome, awesome!!

This is a true battle scene.
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you, I'm glad you like this. Kinda iconic battle, with many interesting events and many races fighting.

I apologise for late replies, just noticed the rest of these comments you made in December. Unfortunately those were buried under other notifications. I want to reply to each and thank for all comments people give.
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jailgurdnegative Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist
You're welcome!!


It's no problem! :D
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scathatheworm Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
i am a massive fan of Tolkien and now a massive fan of your work! you have great detail in the drawing and in your interpretation of text!
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:bow: I'm glad you like my work. Tolkien's stories are something I really enjoy illustrating, using both time and effort. Using original text (or my rough translation from Finnish version) as "narration" is like the last touch to the picture, I dare to say. People can see where the inspiration came from.

I personally love viewing other artist's versions (original + coloured, preferably) as DA offers Tolkien-inspired paintings and drawings for everyone's taste!
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Jwraither Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
very nice work!
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you!
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JustinRaven Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Professional
Awesome, man. Love that wolf.
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:bow: Thank you very much. It was pretty fun to try drawing wolf-riders, it offered something new (I especially wanted to draw infantrymen facing some of these "mounts"!). Mounted combat looks awesome but is usually darn hard to draw.
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JustinRaven Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012  Professional
You have my respect, man. It is very time consuming. I REALLY badly want to paint a picture of the Ride of Imrahil... Goosebumps, man. Goosebumps, every time I think of it :P
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Ragnarok6664 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice, I reallly like the wolf's, and the crow's there's so much detail, very well made/captured scene :thumbsup:
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you very much, I'm glad you like this drawing. It was fun to draw this one of my favourite parts of the book, looking forward to next ones ;)
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gbindis Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
Wow, I'm late!
You managed to fill the whole paper with those pretty details! The ground looks wonderful - I could stare at it and find all those nice details there! The armors, clothing and weapons are beauticully drawn - very impressing! It looks dynamic enough to see it really is a battle scene. Mountains are awesome - I'm often paying attenton to stone/mountains/caverns drawings cause I'm particularly unable to draw them myself ;) I'm not a fan of the bats here - I don't know why.

I just thought about seeing a close up of some characters right now. Turin in his Dragon-helm came to my mind.
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Late for what, hehe :XD:. Thank you for the in-depth comment, it's appreciated! I usually draw land and backround last so those tend to be made in "a hurry" if compared to rest of the scenery. It's fun to draw rock, cliff and mountains, although adding sky to a mountain scenery has proved to be difficult and results, like here, look a bit odd. For a reason or another it lacks depth. It requires a bit more from this black and white -style I use if compared to coloured paintings and drawings (or well, I think so).

And now you reminded me of Túrin Turambar! It's frustrating how many sketches about him I found from my cabinet, should finish one of them someday, ugh...
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AmyBurton Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm really adoring this picture. Such awesome work! Can't get my eyes away from it. :worship:
Which I noticed at first is of course this gorgeous wolf and please forgive me but you can draw wolfs much better than horse. Looks really good here. I also noticed that this picture seem more "clean" compared to the others. I can always see where one person starts and ends in your pictures but here it seems extra clean and nicely compared to the smudgey sky and the dark bats flying there. Awesome atmosphere. Picture like this always make me want to read all the Tolkien books, good job ;)

Some things I wanted to ask you for a while now is about sketches. I'm sure you make some before starting with the ink, or? Do you just make several small ones to get an idea of ambience and composition or do you start directly with a big sketch, sketching the pic out before transferring it onto a new piece of paper and nking it? And how high are the chances to get to see one of your sketches? :D

Also: did you actually ever watched the animated Lord of the rings movie?
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hum, I'm glad you like this und ich danke dir for this in-depth comment of yours :bow:. It's nice to chat with you, as always ;).

Yep, it should be a little bit "cleaner" :D. Thicker outlines in characters who are close helps likewise a bit darker units who are far away. The sky and mountain slope are "a bit" messy - background is always the trickiest part ^^; and damn how hard it is to draw the sky with graphite pencil (looks like a flat surface to me).

You're right about sketching. It really requires planning as does all these "one try" traditional drawings and paintings. Like you described, sometimes it's a bunch of small sketches (like plans in Isildur & Sauron commission work: [link]), and after selecting one I sketch (to new piece of paper) with pencil all that I'll ink afterwards except smallest details, like chainmail and such. After drawing outlines with drawing ink I erase pencil markings as drawing progresses (like here: [link] and in "Beorn finds Thorin" [link]).

By the way, I just spotted your WIP work and it is very good! How is it going, still on the table?

Hehe, I surely did watch both the animated Hobbit and the LotR. Pretty horrible stuff thinking now (green frog-like elves), but those shows had some really catchy songs ("down down to goblin town" and "where's a whip, there's a way") haha XD. I fear I'll never forget those songs. This track I found a few weeks ago has a very lupsakka feeling, hehe ([link])
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gbindis Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
"F*ck you, Sauron!"
Hahahahaha!
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:D Well, you too noticed that. That kind of scribbles just tend to appear to my sketches...
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gbindis Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2012
It was a bonus! :D
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AmyBurton Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Bitte schön, bitte schön :D

But (I think I already mentioned it in the comment?) I think it fits. The clean foreground and then the messiere background. Nice contrast in my eyes. May looks to you like this because your foregrounds are usually very dominant and very dark and so they have a higher contrast from dark to light while your backgrounds are often lighter and have a bit less of contrast but that doesn't means they're flat.

I can imagine. Specially since ink can be very "unforgivening". Thanks so much for sharing these sketches, hell man they are inspiring like hell! I always love to see the sketches behind, good inspiration :D

Thanks and well, I drew a bit more but not much on it. Since it was never planned to be "finished" or so. Sometimes when I find a very nice photographs or a nice scene from movies/making of movies I pause them and sketch it. Aways a nice training and a nice way to relax ;)

Hehe, I knew it :D Yes, in animation-aspects not the best movies but otherwise they so fit in with the other 80's movies like Fire&Ice, Last Unicorn, Princess and the Goblin ect. And oh Wotan, now I sit here and sing "That's what Bilbo Baggins hate..." again and again. My poor neighbours. Lupsakka feeling?
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep, you surely did. Thank you for clearing this, point taken ;)

About forgiving drawings and objects (which I forgot to write in previous message), I think that the fluffier the animal, the more it forgives errors while drawing. That's why I hate drawing horses (well, small pony might be a different story).

Hm, that kind of still-image sketching that you do seems useful. Way to learn drawing different kind of faces, perhaps. I have never tried but I know it developes this skill of quick drawing, where one can illustrate character's main features with only few lines.

Hehe, it's good to keep drawing as fun and a way to relax :D. My sin is that I like seeing finished products and sometimes this forces me to to draw too long, until drawing starts to feel a bit like a work. A bit inspiration, much perspiration (cramped arm more likely).

Classic stuff those old toons. I think that in animated Lotr they used this technique of mixed live-action + animation because the animation of characters was so fluid. It looked pretty cool when I first time saw it.

Ah, "lupsakka" is basically same as German term "gesellig" (I think?). Jovial, cosy, casual... A funny word itself, I love it, but pretty hard to translate in a good way.

It's soon Midsummer! How did you plan to celebrate it, do you go to see bonfires?
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AmyBurton Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sorry then, I blame it on the fact that I am lazy :;):

That could be true because I also think that fluffy animals are often easier then...how to call them? Un-fluffy animals?

Yeah I got this from back at artschool when we had "anatomy-class". Very bad class because it was very unorganised and the teacher wasn't very good but it truly helps to search some images and just quikly draw them or so.
I think Posemaniacs even has a programm where the figure changes every minute or so, not sure about that information right now.

Definitely. By the way I tried some copic multiliner (which I haven't touched in a year) yesterday. Just quik 30 minutes or so and only outline...failed perfectly and I blame you (yes you) for my hurting hand yesterday and for touching those evil pens again ;)
(Never had a good hand with "ink", ect.) I used to have a creme here that helps when hand/arm sores from to much drawing or so (in German it's called Pferdesalbe), mainly got it because of calligraphy and it helps very good and keeps you from getting "tendon stain" which is very, very painful :roll:

I like old, classic stuff. Depends of course on the movie but some of them are very nice. Ehm, some scence got played by actors indeed. Yeah, the movie isn't bad from the animated way (since I haven't read the books I can't say anything to the storyline) but the animations were nice.

Gesellig = Folksy,chummy, etc.? So far I love every finnish word I heard ::D: I once had a dream where I sat in the car with a Finn and everytime it looked bad for us in whatever way he just said "Perkele" (the only word he used in the whole dream) and whoops, we were on the winning-side of life.

Sad to disappoint you but we don't celebrate Midsummer. How do people in Finland celebrate it?
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So you have a artschool background, interesting. What level of studying is that, by the way - is it something one can study after high school? Were you able to choose what you study or was it more like jack-of-all-trades -form of teaching (a bit of everything)?

:noes: Urgh, well, I offer my symphaties. Drawing outlines is quite stressful for hand because one has to keep hand steady. Worst is to draw round objects like shields/helmets, then comes long objects like spears and swords. Those must be drawn with one stroke which is nasty, especially if there are things like reflections/shading that must be taken into account later.

Copic multiliners, my horror. Literally meant for drawing outlines and nothing else. I surely wish I had known that before I bought few of those. Do not do the same mistake I did and try inking wide areas with it... it wont work. I had to draw one drawing twice because of that, literally twice on same paper.

They seem to relate copic pens to manga-style drawing nowadays. There it works, definitely not in my style though :(. May I ask what did you draw with copic multiliner? Characters like in your wip work?

Huh, no Midsummer celebration. It's not anything glamorous here either thou, people usually, if possible, leave cities and travel to summer cottages with their families, friends etc. Barbecue, beer, sauna, swimming. Bonfire/midsummer pyre (kokko in Finnish) is the main event, here in city there are many public places where kokko is lit (beaches/shores) and where people come to spend some time. When I was younger Midsummer was way more funnier, nowadays I tend to avoid summer cottages because of annoying mosquitos ^^;

Well, it's soon time when daylight lasts longer than night, Midsummer's nightless night - after it it's a slow fall towards autumn. Enjoy it how you can and Hyvää Juhannusta!
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AmyBurton Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
More or less, yes. When I finished school (our schoolsystem is a bit complicated) I went to an artschool and studied communicationdesign for about 2 year. I broke when I was in fourth semester and you couldn't choose yourself what you wanted to learn and what not. We had basic drawing, illustration, visual communication, arthistory, colourtheory, markertechniques (which was basicly that the teacher gave us pictures and we had to redraw them), life-drawing, calligraphy (:heart:), computerprogramms (illustrator, photoshop, InDesign), Marketing, screendesign, typography and I think that's it. Unfortunatly the school wasn't a good choise (not to mention that I don't like doing computer stuff like flyers, poster, ect.) everything was extremely basic and very short it was hard to make something out of it and you choose better when you teach everything to you yourself. Still have so much stuff from it but I didn't really learned anything from it.

Thank you, thank you. Yes you say it :roll: That's why I don't do much outlining but when I go to your gallery I always get the urge to try it myself ;)

Oh so bad? I'm actually fine with them, only anoying thing is that when you outline and then erase the pencil-sketch the "colour" fades and you have to redraw outlines. That sucks. When I was in artschool I sketched a lot of small cartoon-figures and stuff on my schoolpapers with an fineliner, those work better because they don't fade but the bad part is that they're only avaible in two sizes, I also have real art-/drawingink here and the fitting "pens" for it but it's so hard to handle and to make nice lines with it :noes:

Well copics come from Japan as far as I know ;) And yes, they're actually made for sketches, specially for design-sketches. And yes, I do have a bunch of multinliners here and no the WIP was done completly with 2b and 8b pencils (from Faber Castell, my favourite because they have a nice quality).

Most people here don't even know what midsummer is or when it is :XD: Oh yes I read about that and to be honestly I think that sounds nice. Oh it just came to my mind that Finland must have a lot of mosquitos thanks to all those lakes. (Doesn't Kuopio also has a big lake right next to the city?)

Thanks and I hope you had a nice midsummer aswell? ;)
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Huh, so many art-related subjects, and marketing to boot. Calligraphy "seems" to be your favourite :D, one could call that "fancy lettering". This is remotely familiar to me via marketing/advertising courses in the uni.

Yes, pencil + drawing ink + eraser really indicate problem in some form, haha. Either it smears ink or, like you said, fades it. Fineliner? Actually using different types of pencils (b, hb, h...heh, I only use hb + pressure :dummy:). Real ink with ink-pens! Reading your comment convinces me that I'm such a noob when it comes to professional drawing and art-doing, I don't have a clue about those things.

How odd (to me at least) that Midsummer has such a little attention there, I thought it was quite common thing in western countries. Well, always something new to learn! Yes, Kuopio is basically in a peninsula, surrounded by a lake from north, east and west. Mosquitos really need shadowy trees, like spruces (plenty here), and stagnant water; lakes aren't too good for eggs and larvas because those are a main dish for fish. Buckets full of water, swamps, puddles and so on are the nest for those cursed things. When I walk on Puijo hill there's a horde of mosquitos after me evey time (better to jog). They say that keeping ground dry, buckets empty and cutting bushes from 25m radius of house gives peace of mind, really... Even better is to have holiday on a windy, rocky island with pine trees.

I had, thank you very much.
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Dulliros Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great, epic drawing :clap:
I like the idea to put the main focus on the wolf!
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you!

Well, I think wargs and wolves in this battle were so exotic part of the army so I thought it would be a "must" to draw some of them. Besides I think that those beasts must have been a horrible sight on a battlefield when facing foot soldiers, so drawing wolves and their goblin riders creating havoc among soldiers of the Long Lake sounded like a good idea to me.
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wytherwing Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
very fine work! :thumbsup:
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you very much, highly appreciated as a fellow b&w artist.
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wytherwing Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012
;) you're absolutely welcome :ahoy:
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regklubeck Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This loads into my browser (Chrome) as black and white horizontal lines... no picture. :/
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Can't really help with that, sounds odd. Thank you for trying & telling, though ;)
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Caradepato Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Like all of your work, i really love this. Really really love this. The attention to detail is impressive.
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:bow: Then I'm happy that this drawing met the expectations! I haven't drawn proper battle scenes for a long time (or so it feels) and forgot how fun it is.
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Caradepato Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012
I unfortunatly suffer from lack of discipline. I will start the battle scene, and get tired of the theme. single objects/portraits/ e.c.t for me
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EgilSterkr Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Upea!
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Kiitoksia, kiva että pidät. Kyllähän tätä tulikin piirrettyä useitä päiviä.
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woutart Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
YES! Awesome! One of my favorite Tolkien battles :happybounce: Nice gruesome details (disemboweled by a warg, ouch) and a great overall feeling of mass combat. The posture of the warg rider with the axe is very dynamic, love it. There is an overall greyness to the image but that suits the dark shadowy cloud of bats that flew overhead. It makes the white highlight stand out all the more.

Great job my friend! More!!! Dwarves!!! Elves!!!! The works!
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Tulikoura Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you W, I appreciate this a lot. This kind of drawings I love the most and the battle of five armies certainly has many interesting elements! I love how wargs and wolves were part of the goblin army - thinking how well Lake-town militia handles these mountain beasts (which are, btw, way easier AND funnier to draw than horses, haha).

I agree with greyness, mostly "achieved" by graphite pencil but this also has something to do with my scanner. It doesn't save settings at all and I think that both light and dark shades are a bit too dark. Still, like you said, it highlights character in front a bit more. I usually say that 'the darker the better' but well, artist tend to be blind to their own works, right ;)? And of all people I learnt the importance of contrast from you, good man.

The works, right! I can clearly see this... "The elves were the first to charge. Their hatred for the goblins is cold and bitter. Behind the arrows a thousand of spearmen leapt down and charged" and "Just as the goblins were recovering from the onslaught and the elf-charge was halted, there rose from across the valley a deep-throated roar. With cries of "Moria!" and "Dain, Dain!" the dwarves of the Iron Hills plunged in, wielding their mattocks, upon the other side."

Good times! Good times!
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woutart Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Awesome! :)
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